Showing posts with label 4th Edition. Show all posts
Showing posts with label 4th Edition. Show all posts

Wednesday, 10 February 2016

Impulse Buying

Evilbay

Its a bugger, it really is. I merely pop online to make sure that my Everqueen price estimate in my previous post was roughly correct and I find something, the great temptation, a Porsche for the price of a Vauxhall...

Apparently searching for "Everqueen" in Ebay's search bar also turns up Maidenguard, in my case a whole mess of them. I saw 20 of the old Gary Morely sculpts, with full command up for £65. Barely believing it, I put in a starting big for a laugh and then forgot about it. Imagine how shocked I was when I get a confirmation email through that I have won the auction...

No one else bid and I won, almost unintentionally, to be honest. I didn't even want to spend £65 at that particular point but I was not about to let these lovelies slip by. This now leaves me with somewhat of a dilemma, the Maidenguard have no place in the army lists I have written and I now rather desperately want to paint them. A little voice in the back of the head is saying: 

"Just do one, it will be a nice diversion from your project and then you can get right back to it"

However I have dealt with this little bastard before and know exactly what he is up to. Currently my resolution is holding strong, mostly because I have not had time to paint anything at all after an Ikea frenzy. A frenzy that has amongst other things landed me with a spangly new desk and dedicated painting area. Still, assembling a painting area almost counts as painting right? I wonder how many points that would technically class as?

So, fuck all then.

I may well compromise and paint my Everqueen as a mage in the army, I have always wanted one so meh, it might be a good way of shutting up evil me. It would also only be one miniature for me to paint in an otherwise busy month.

I do have one concern about the Maidenguard though, while some look exactly as I would expect a few are quite....shiny. They might have just had a really rough strip job (eek) but I am worrying it might be a recast. If anyone has an opinion or experience please let me know.

Sunday, 31 January 2016

Target missed!

Mission Failed. 

I have not hit my 100 point target this month. First poor showing of the campaign but not the end of the war.

I have successfully painted 4.5 sea guard and a selection of bases to be used in the future. A rather pitiful 63 points, plus whatever some bases are worth. There are a whole host of excuses that prevented me from attaining gaming nirvana this month but I will not bore you with them here, suffice to say I will have more work to do in the coming months.


Onward and upwards


Talking of the future; my High Elf army may well change in composition over the coming weeks,  Weazil from http://warhammerforadults.blogspot.co.uk/ has mentioned that he may be running a 4th edition game at BOYL 2016, which is something I would love to take part in. As regular readers will know I do like a bit of 4th (or is that 5th?) edition Warhammer Fantasy. However it would require a rejig in army lists as a lord character must be chosen in the later editions, it is Hero Hammer after all.

The core units of halberd armed melee infantry, archers, cavalry and scouts will likely remain because of the flexibility and flavor they provide. The main questions that puzzle me most are: Can I fit in a bolt thrower and where to put the general? Make a mega unit with the Silver Helms, have him on a monster by himself or lounge around with the infantry? I am leaning towards sticking him on a Pegasus but that might be a bit expensive. When I know more about, points and magic item distribution I can think in more detail.



The legion grows

Of course during this quiet month my purchasing urges have not diminished. I picked up a quintet of High Elven characters on the Old Hammer Trading Group, in fairness this caught my eye for two reasons: 1, It was a tenner and 2, had the Everqueen in. Alarielle is one expensive lady and is going for £25 on ebay BIN's which is normally too rich for my stingy self. The others were an archer champion that I have liked the look of for years, a Gary Morely mounted hero and a marauder standard and musician.


I had always thought the marauder stuff was.... stocky but standing next to Jes Goodwins seaguard they just simply do not look Elven. More so a rather butch pair of humans playing dress up. I think these will go back on sale at some point soon, I just cannot see myself wanting to paint them. Should anyone want to pick them up from me please let me know.


I did possess the Everqueen before at some point in the mists of time, god knows where she went but I now have a duplicate and am inordinately happy about it. This means any army I now run will include a Mage on foot, so I can use the miniature. She, along with the archer champion has been stripped and are currently being prepped for painting.


Where to go from here?

I am going to take a break from painting Seaguard once the 10th member of the unit is complete, mainly to mix things up and have a break but also to allow me to get the Shadow warriors unit up to a legal 5 many unit and get cracking on the other ranged elements of my army. I am currently trying to resist the kid at Christmas approach of wanting to paint Alarielle, instead I will use her as a reward after getting a shit load of archers done instead. This also gives me some time to learn how to paint shear material which will not necessarily expose the Evernips™ but just break up the monotony of a green dress because I suck at freehanding designs.

Monday, 20 October 2014

Hero Hammer

I have a confession to make. I quite liked 4th and 5th edition of Warhammer Fantasy battle...

It was unbalanced, entirely focused on characters and monsters (as the description "Hero Hammer" might suggest) and had many elements of 3rd Edition simplified to make it more approachable for younger audiences. But I still kinda liked it. Let me explain why.

Army Books

Compared to the lack of background material for 3rd edition, 4th and 5th had a huge influx of content in the form of army books. Each book began the modern concept of describing, fully and completely one race or faction of the Warhammer world. Both in background and rules, the foundations of the races were laid down, units described and hobby ideas given. I still have quite a few of them on hand to read when bored as the imagery they present are, to me at least, the definition of the Warhammer races. The artwork was great throughout and really brought the world alive for my 10 year old brain (and little development of the grey cells has occurred since), even though it was mostly black and white the intricate pencil works and contrasting, smooth inks just kicked something primal in my head.

Later editions of the army books are more or less rehashes of this format, maybe they move sections about but the general shape of it is there. With one notable and rather tragic omission. In all of the Armybooks, barring the first High Elf and Undead books, there was a dedicated hobby and army building section. The reader was presented with a one thousand point army list, made of only models from the book, few magic items and the majority of the units made from the plastic regiment boxed sets. Following this was a brief discussion on what the units were for, roughly what they did, how to expand the force and what to do with older models as you bought more. This presented a much needed shove in the right direction for new players of the game, basically saying " I know this book may seem confusing, but here, use these guys and the rules for them in this book and you will have fun."

I cannot, for the life of me work out why this section was removed for later editions.


Supporting Content

This was a period when White Dwarf magazine was at its best, in my humble opinion. Featuring scenarios, battle reports, painting and modelling tutorials and new rules to support its existing games. Naturally interspersed with adverts for new and old products that for some reason didn't feel quite as obvious as they do today. This might be down to adult cynicism on my part though. 

A Gathering of Might battle report and surrounding fuss was a tour de force of these principles. For those that do not know, A Gathering of Might was the biggest battle report featured in White Dwarf to date. Using all of the Orc, Goblin, Chaos Dwarf, Empire and Wood Elf armies in GW's cabinets to fight as big a battle as they could. No one bothered to count the points for it but they guessed at about 25000 on the table.



Additional rules were provided for command and control, as with 4 players per side communication needed to be limited to simulate the Generals on field difficulties and prevent too close a co-operation. Mobile phones have of course yet to be invented in the Warhammer world.

Robin Dewes had written a short story as a pre-amble for the battle, mentioning two previous battles that had lead to this titanic conflict. Both of these tussles with greenskins had actually been White Dwarf battle reports, creating a sense of story and emphasis that this wasn't a random fight in the park. The battle was fought, fun was had and the Empire was dealt a heavy defeat. A few months later, follow up scenarios that describe the Empire's subsequent actions were printed. The two linked games were simple, if the Empire won the first battle they would be able to fight united in the second. If they didn't win, their reinforcements would be delayed or not turn up at all. So very simple but so very satisfying.



There also seemed to be a concerted effort to show an army building progression for newer players, to show them, in baby steps, how to grow their army and of course spend more money in their local GW. The 4th edition boxed game contained a staggering 104 plastic miniatures as well as card cut outs as stand ins for larger models that you could buy at a later date, or not. Split between 40 High Elves and 64 Goblins, it gave a great base for their respective armies. This was demonstrated in a White Dwarf battle report that used the boxed game as a base for both armies and included a few more additional units as well. These miniatures were then used to fight an Ambush scenario. To me, this is salesmanship at its finest. Showing that with just a few more miniatures you could recreate this spectacle and move on to have your own fun as well, yet didn't feel far out of reach as everyone already had the core of each army...

Man-O-War was also still a fully supported game so the ability to add that extra level to your game was also there, ever tempting by GW's cunning sales team.

The models



Much of the 3rd edition and earlier miniatures were around still, if they were not in the shops then they were available via mail order. Yet there were still a steady stream of releases, not always for the army of the moment but others too, including my favourite, High Elves and the 5th edition Army book. I will be honest with you, before 5th High Elves had it rough, 3rd gave them a motley bunch of poor (in my opinion) casts and 4th brought in a raft of chunky marauder metals and a glut of plastic spearmen and archers. For 5th, they were given some of the finest metal models they have ever had (again, in opinion), Gary Morley's mounted characters were fantastic, having such fine details and regal bearing they were often drooled over by a much younger me. Later on, the White Lions were released which again I found to be particularly fine.



5th did usher in some of the worst multi part plastic kits GW produced though to be fair, from comical Zombies to hunch backed Chaos Warriors. The again plastic models are the devil, so I ignore them anyway...

I do wish they hadn't painted so much stuff red though... If they had simply kept the aesthetic of  3rd it would have been perfect.

The bad and the really bad

For all of its completeness, 4th/5th had some serious downsides. The huge amount of magic items available made characters highly customizable and to all intents and purposes almost unstoppable. While most characters could be made pretty damned heroic, they never really stood much of a chance against a fully formed unit but some builds were definite stand outs. One particularly horrible aberration was a Chaos Lord of Khorne (ws9 with 10 attacks thanks to frenzy) wielding the blade of darting steel (all attacks hit automatically) just having drunk a potion of strength (+3 Strength) with the Helm of Many Eyes (always strike first). If the player was a total cunt, he would mount it on something flying as well so you couldn't get away from him. So yeah, that's 10 strength 8 hits that always go first and there is fuck all you can do about it. Units, monsters, even other characters, couldn't really do anything other than be removed from the table. Not really much fun. 



And sadly that was not the only cookie cutter beat stick. So 5th turned in to a character fuelled arms race giving it one of the worst reputations with players as so few people actually had fun playing it.

Which is a great shame really as it is so very easy to fix, yet for some reason GW never tried.

It also lacked quite a few of the complexities of 3rd and so suffered to a degree from a tactical angle. The moral system seemed particularly odd and it wasn't uncommon to see entire armies turn and run at the first loud bang.

Army selection

Army selection had only a few, broad outlines. Only 50% of your army could be spent on Characters, 25% on monsters, 25% on warmachines, 25% on allies and at least 25% had to be spent on units. It really doesn't take a genius to see where the emphasis lies looking at those numbers. 

Now what happens if you reduce characters to maximum 25% and put the minimum of units to 50%. All of a sudden the power builds are not possible, the points are simply not available. Units now must be the majority of the army, meaning that they have to do more than be artillery guards to justify their points. All of a sudden things start looking more like an army. Not really that difficult, is it?

Yet, GW didn't do this, they just released an entirely new version of the game designed to use more models and subsequently sell more boxes. A bit rubbish really and a way to put the final nails in the coffin for what could have been a golden age.